Gillmor vs. Curry – Round 1

Steve Gillmor is angry that the Gillmor Gang is no longer playing on Sirius 102:

“To be blunt, the Gang on Sirius is one of the best shows on that network. Forget about how I feel about it; what it says about my partners in the Gang is just fucking unforgivable. Doc Searls is one of the most important voices of our time, and reducing even for a minute the reach of that sound is just plain dumb.”

Adam Curry picks up the glove:

“As you know the Daily shows were removed from the lineup long ago due to lack of timely delivery, if at all. Unfortunately, the Gillmor Gang fell prey to the exact same problem. Repeats are unacceptable and unnecessary.

It is your sole responsibility to produce and deliver your programming, as is the content of the programming.
If organization of the talent for each show is a barrier, then you should consider compensating your Gang members.

The production budget for your programming is considerably larger than that of a daily 4 hour satellite radio program, I suggest you allocate a portion of it towards ‘talent booking’ or production assistance.”

First, about this discussion: Yes, there seem to have been problems with delivery (“Gillmor Daily” could have been renamed “Gillmor Monthly”…), but a show that features highly successful people who have a day job (pun intended) may sometimes run into scheduling difficulties. Also, I’d say this explanation by Adam obviously was not given before the show was taken off of Sirius, instead these blog posts appear – a serious communication issue.

I am a HUGE fan of the gang, but the last few months have been a stretch. While the addition of Mike Arrington and Jason Calacanis rocks, Steve Gillmor has obviously been selling out. He has often been hinting at money issues, which seems to have been a reason – the show has certainly suffered: I have written extensively about this, and the recent method of splitting up the gang into three 25 minute episodes with 7 minutes ads each really is a downer. In the good old Gillmor Gang days at IT Conversations I enjoyed listening to the one hour show each friday, now I have to collect the episodes over days and fast forward through the ads.

Steve, if money is the issue, please consider offering subscriptions for the Gang. I’d happily pay a buck each week for a full gang, but this Podshow nonsense will kill a good show if you don’t take care.

PodShow+ is open for business

You can register at

It’s supposed to be a listener interface as well, combined with a community effort and a podcast directory.

It looks quite nice, and at least the directory stuff and integration with the Podsafe Music Network is cool. Unfortunately, I can’t get the listener interface working for me. The concept in itself looks pretty twisted, and the operations just don’t work for me. I have no idea how it is supposed to work with iTunes/iPod, and I can’t get *any* podcast to play from the site. This may be a problem with Firefox and/or popups, but I’m not willing to switch browsers to use the site.

I’ll be keeping an eye on it, though – this may have potential; I’m sure it’s just birthing pains.

Advertising on the Gillmor Gang

Steve Gillmor talks about advertising in his podcasts:

“The complaints about the advertising on Gillmor Gang and Daily continue in the comments. I thought I’d post here to consolidate and try and explain why I’m doing it this way. First, I believe in the power of repetition, as I discuss with Adam Curry on the two part Gillmor Daily we recorded yesterday. The length of the endorsement is basically what I feel it should be, not any specific requirement on the part of Podshow or the sponsor. I try and produce something that I feel accurately represents my views, and in particular, how grateful I am for these fine companies, Podshow in particular and each sponsor as they join the show, that they have decided to support the show and the great talent that appears with me.”

Steve, let me say it again: advertising is ok, really. But let’s take one of last weeks episodes as an example: Don’t you think talking about how great these people are for about 7 minutes of a 30 minute podcast is a bit of a stretch?

Can’t you just take the example of Adam Curry and play the odd add now and then, and mention other sponsors quickly during the show? I now always start the Gillmor Gang by pushing the fast forward button until I can make out the start melody of the gang.


How do you handle podcasts on non-iPod players?

In yet another attempt to re-think my gadget infrastructure, I’m thinking of listening to podcasts from a Nokia 6230i mobile phone.

Like many similar devices, this basically works as a USB mass storage device when attached to the PC.

Compared with an iPod, I’m losing quite a bit of functionality:

– I haven’t yet found a tool to automatically create playlists.

– synchronisation needs additional software.

– There is no way to see which podcasts I have listened to already. Play count does not update in iTunes, either.

How is the rest of the world doing this – surely there must be more non-iPod podcast listeners out there. Let me know!

Dear Steve Gillmor,…

let me restate that I’m completely ok with advertising in podcasting. I am also a huge fan of the Gillmor Gang, but I’m getting more and more annoyed about the cheap attempts of Steve to justify the ads in his shows.

Steve, we do get it. It’s ok – really! Just play the ad somewhere and the show, and it’ll be fine. But PLEASE stop explaining how ads are supposed to work, and let the ad producers speak for themselves. On the show of march 29, you spent more than 6 minutes (!) talking about Earthlink and GoDaddy – that’s just putting everybody off. It’s quite likely that a similar rule as in eCommerce applies, where they say that every additional click decreases the probability of a transaction by 50 percent.
We’re all fine listening to the ads, so please don’t overdo it.